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I see the grom as just a fun bike to mess around with, not something I would daily ride like I would with the CBR250. If I was just starting out and needed something to commute to and from work...CBR250 would be it. Plus I don't like the idea of the Grom topping out at 65MPH. I rather be able to ride at 65MPH and past that without worrying im topping my bike out
 

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I see the grom as just a fun bike to mess around with, not something I would daily ride like I would with the CBR250. If I was just starting out and needed something to commute to and from work...CBR250 would be it. Plus I don't like the idea of the Grom topping out at 65MPH. I rather be able to ride at 65MPH and past that without worrying im topping my bike out
Have to agree with that, sensible analysis.

What are you looking for, commuting, fun? How many miles do you anticipate riding?

I had a Honda 250 Dream waaaaay back, it was a great bike.

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I still think if the Grom as a cool mini bike toy. It would be easy to learn on, but it's a little toy for me!


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The 250 is a beginners/learners bike. The average guy would be kinda embarrassed to ride one. I couldn't park my cbr900 and ride a cbr250. The grom is awesome! It's a gangsta little super moto mini bike. To me there is NO comparison.
That's like comparing a Lotus Elise to a VW Beetle because thy are both small 4 cylinder cars. Nothing alike. Not even the same ballpark.

On another note I did see two young men with wife beaters on, riding together on one CBR250. Seriously. My wife and son pointed out he two guys on a bike together and I noted it was a cbr250.


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Ideally I'd like to get the Grom as a fun bike to play around with and a full size bike for commuter/distance riding/speed. But I think the Grom would keep my attention longer than getting a 250cc bike, which I can see myself easily getting tired of or outgrowing. Grom first it is. :) A full bike like the CBR600RR after.
 

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The 250 is a beginners/learners bike. The average guy would be kinda embarrassed to ride one. I couldn't park my cbr900 and ride a cbr250. The grom is awesome! It's a gangsta little super moto mini bike. To me there is NO comparison.
That's like comparing a Lotus Elise to a VW Beetle because thy are both small 4 cylinder cars. Nothing alike. Not even the same ballpark.

On another note I did see two young men with wife beaters on, riding together on one CBR250. Seriously. My wife and son pointed out he two guys on a bike together and I noted it was a cbr250.


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I highly agree. I never would have thought I'd go back to a lower than 600cc motorcycle but after seeing the GROM I sort of knew that this would be one of those cool small CC motorcycles. Kind of like how I view the Ruckus scooter.

I have no shame rocking around in the GROM. Where as in a CBR250R I will always feel like I couldn't afford/not enough balls to get the CBR600RR.
 

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Do "student" or "learner" motorcyclists in the US get restricted as to power / engine size? In the UK, a "learner" (basically) gets restricted to 33 bhp so either a de-tuned bigger bike or a 125/250 under 33bhp.

There are other rules (motorcycling is getting restrictive thanks to UK/Euro laws discouraging motorcycling).

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I highly agree. I never would have thought I'd go back to a lower than 600cc motorcycle but after seeing the GROM I sort of knew that this would be one of those cool small CC motorcycles. Kind of like how I view the Ruckus scooter.

I have no shame rocking around in the GROM. Where as in a CBR250R I will always feel like I couldn't afford/not enough balls to get the CBR600RR.
this is so true, the Grom only comes in one model which helps give it a good image, meanwhile when you buy a CBR250R it's seen as the cheapest, least powerful and basic CBR you can get since there are a few models above it.

Now if the Grom 125 was one of a few different groms the grom 125 we're all talking about would be seen how the CBR250 is, as the lowest of the bunch.
 

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Do "student" or "learner" motorcyclists in the US get restricted as to power / engine size? In the UK, a "learner" (basically) gets restricted to 33 bhp so either a de-tuned bigger bike or a 125/250 under 33bhp.

There are other rules (motorcycling is getting restrictive thanks to UK/Euro laws discouraging motorcycling).

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I dont think there is any limitations.

In Ontario the day I got my licence I bought my 600RR. So there are no restrictions here.

We go have graduated licensing though. M1 is the first level 3 months. restricted to no night driving and no Highway. M2 is the next level and can have this for up to 5 years. The only limit on the M2 is no alcohol in the system (which I find ridiculous because I would NEVER dream of even having one beer then jumping on the bike). M is the full license.

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Just depends on the needs of the rider, for beginners it is usually recommended to start with a lower displacement starter bike like the CBR250 the 125 is too little for power and sounds too much like a lawn mower. The Grom could be used as a city commuter but with power limits I would try to use it on the free way. The Grom is more of secondary bike used for a toy.
 

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If your goal is to ride sportbikes, start small and move up in displacement, the CBR250r is the logical choice. I started with a 1976 CB500T myself, which I wouldn't recommend, not because of the 500cc, but because it had dual drum-brakes.

Grom is more of an alternative bike. Stock, it's more akin to a street pitbike, or a manual scooter with a semi-aggressive riding position. I wouldn't recommend it as a beginner bike in the traditional sense; but I wouldn't put it past anyone if they choose it as their first bike.

Some people start at 500 (Ninja 500r, CBR500r, or 600ccs (Ducati Monster), or even 800+ (Harley). It all kind of depends on the bike itself and the end-result you are shooting for. Generally, you want to start with a bike that has a similar shape to the bike you are working up to.

If you don't mind modding, I can see outfitting the Grom to suit your needs better. Me, I will definitely be modding my future-Grom, but I prefer smaller displacement for the fuel-efficiency, among other things. I don't personally have a need for anything past 250cc, at least I won't for awhile.
 

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i have a CBR250R. it's infinitely more practical if only for the fairing and the fact that it hits speeds fast enough that would require fairings. the Grom i imagine is definitely one of those in-town only or track-paddock bikes that would be loads of fun no matter what you're doing.
 

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In the US there are no restrictions. This means a 16 year old with a license and MC endorsement can get a 1000cc super sport bike. This is a big mistake IMO. There are so many nuances to riding than just knowing when to shift.

As others have stated, you have to look at what your needs are- Commuting to work? Running around town? Having fun on the weekends? I used to have a Nighthawk 650 which, at the time, some considered to be a "small" bike. Thankfully, the US seems to have gotten to pace with the rest of the world to realize that a 250 (or even a 125) serves basic transportation needs quite well.

I think the Grom would be great to learn on. I have a CBR250R and absolutely love it though. I don't know the specs, but the Grom seems kind of small- kind of like what they used to call a "mini-bike" when I was young.
 
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